Last night, we got wind of a rant.
Last night, I read the rant and felt a little annoyed by ranter.
Today, in my curiosity and as I was reminded of the subject, I went to check up on the comments, and that’s when I noticed how big the little rant had become.
Ranting is one thing, bitching is another, and utter bullying is something completely different. It doesn’t take much to make one little rant entirely and inappropriately personal, and when it becomes personal, it has turned into bullying. Keeping things ‘anonymous’ and then going off to say all kinds of things about the-one-who-shall-not-be-named does not mean it isn’t personal. We’ve all read Harry Potter, we all know who you-know-who is.
So today, I am furious. Having had much experience of being both on the receiving and the giving end of bullying, I am the first one to say that it’s simply not cool. And publicly ranting on a blog about someone is taking it a step further than nasty comments. When someone puts something out in the open like that, they can very well expect people to respond, defend and lash out at them in return.
I do not condone bullying, but I will stand by my friends. I am the ultimate diplomat, and I prefer to make nice than be bitchy, but some people really make me want to bitch at them. I don’t like who I become when I bitch at people.
Maybe, just maybe, it would be better for me to contact these people by PM or email and nicely point out where their arguments don’t add up and stand up for my friend. Or maybe I should contain my rant in a private place, so the people in question wouldn’t get hurt. It is what I would have suggested in the first place, if anyone would have asked my opinion on it. It is what I usually do whenever I need to vent.
But why should I rise above these people? Why should I be the one keeping my mouth shut and not bitch in public? Someone said Freedom of Speech, so I’m using it. Someone also said do unto others as you would have them do unto you (yes, me, the atheist, is quoting the Bible, deal with it), so I’m doing unto others what they would have others do unto them. And with that, I’m ready to have someone rant about me in return. The cause is well worth the risk.
The third golden nugget: if you are attacked -- attack back, but with class. Jeez. Some people should really think before they say something, and actually look at all sides. What has been done and said so far is far from classy. Besides, can anyone remember who was attacked first?
I can.
And that’s exactly what drives me to rant myself.
I hate that this is my first blog post on here, and I definitely don’t want to waste my week on a rant, so y’all should expect another blog soon, something more cheerful, I hope!
Oh, and there are other mama bears in this fandom, some of whom I am more scared than others (*cough AT cough*)
Rags! I love you! Amazing.
ReplyDeleteMaybe you should move over here and we can *cough* y'know.. XD
You and AT make awesome mamma bears! GRRR
amazing :) and it doesn't point at anyone either!! XD Awesome.
xxxx
I go by a screen name, but I don't hide behind it, as most people know. I wouldn't like to be accused of speaking against bullying because no one knows who's speaking.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Rags, enough is enough. There was a direct attack made and then compounded by remarks to other members. We are a family in rehab, we protect our family as daddy Cullen says. Someone meant no harm, they were attacked and then the bullies came forward and said, do not question us. That only works if the person you are speaking to is afraid of bullies. I am one of the older adults around the fandom and call bullshit when I see it.
Heartfelt first post Rags
Mamma Bear
You're kidding right? You know what, I have been nice as fucking pie about this whole thing! You wanna talk about bullying? How about being called a damn bitch on your own blog? What gets me is that this whole thing was OVER! The two people involved claimed to be done with this whole thing! (Though judging from the comment above, one was more honest than the other). How seriously, the fuck? If The muses want to rant then we can and will and frankly no one has been bullied, you just wanna pick a damn fight. I do NOT participate in fandom for this childish BULLSHIT! It was over until you decided to dig it up all the fuck over again. You may enjoy drama and childish name calling but the Muses do not. We are all too old to give a fuck now, we have been there and done that. Now you need to watch what you are saying because this has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with you and all you are doing is spreading pointless shit to ANOTHER blog when it shouldn't have been taken this far on the first! I have been on the recieving end of a rant or three and yeah you're pissed but you hash it out and then move on, you do not try to group together your galpals to harass someone and spread it on to multiple blogs.
ReplyDeleteIt is our choice to include rants in our blogs and if you don't like them then dont read. As for the mama bear comment, nice to know your paying attention but frankly if you want to start in on this and include me...do it properly. MissGemGem@gmail.com, whenever you are ready...
Please refrain from threats and accusations that are unfounded in comments as they as not taken lightly.
ReplyDeleteMembers speak for themselves about an issue, it doesn't mean they are speaking on behalf of anyone else unless stated.
Excuse me? Who threatened who? Again you are trying to make drama from NOTHING! What have I accused of other than the fact that there has been a post made which is actually a founded accusation because um yep its there!
ReplyDeleteWhat I find amusing is that again, it seems to have gone over your head about emails and your comment not only accused me of something I didn't do but threatened me lol. This is just childish and beyond funny now...
We need a cure over here, STAT!
I will say again...Mail me if you have an issue.
I am sorry. I didn't realize I was 'digging anything up.' As far as I'm concerned, this is something that happened today and yesterday, and even though you guys feel like you've said the last word, doesn't mean that the rest of us aren't allowed to speak our minds.
ReplyDeleteIf you don't like drama, then how about not including childish rants on your very public blog? If it's all in the name of having a place to say your thing, then why am I not allowed to say what I feel? At least *I* was nice enough to leave your blog alone.
If the Muses want to rant, then you can. However, I do not appreciate it when a bunch of grown women think that it's okay to publicly diss someone who is so much younger than you are. And you're right. I'm pissed. Just like you guys, I have chosen to hash it out in public. You guys started with the rant about one of our members, she rightfully came to us to vent about how she felt about the situation, so we took matters into our own hands. Just like you did, when you felt like one of your own was being attacked.
And I really really need to point out that that anonymous comment, I am 99% sure that it was not made by anyone at Rehab.
And talking about emails, if your ranter would have contacted the one she had issues with and told her what she was feeling, then none of this would have happened. If you think it's making you the bigger person, leaving your email out there, then okay. You believe that. It doesn't change the fact that you're still here, commenting.
And I can be big, too. Here, email me at rags.stone@gmail.com ... It's my blog post, it's my rant. If you have any problems with me, please, don't hesitate to use it!
Do you know what I see right here? A whole bunch of squabbling children. Which of course brings us back to the point that you shouldn't be on my adult blog in the first place. Yes I ranted and I had every right to do so! But you had no right when it was all done! What i see here is a child with nothing more to do than wanting to stir shit.
ReplyDeleteSo in the words of my Mama Bear BRING IT THE FUCK ON!
musingsofakyria@gmail.com
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ReplyDeleteI was going to stay out of this, but I find it so humorous that the ppl who are coming to OUR blog and calling US out are calling US childish......
ReplyDeletePpl living in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.
Sorry, wanted to add something.
ReplyDeleteI would like to point out my previous comment was a disclaimer for all comments on this post, the same thing we tell members when joining the site. I am by no means under age. All our members are over 18 to our knowledge, we remove members who aren't.
In response to the direct comment to me. Nothing went over my head about emails. There have been no links given, no blogs named in the original post. I feel it is everyone right to speak out when they see injustice.
OKAY FUCKING HELL.
ReplyDeleteThis is getting way out of preportion. We've all done something wrong, but aren't we adult enough to work through all of this without it turning into "battle of the website/blogs".
Heather, why didn't you just tell me? rather than venting on muses? I know why it's there, but I really thought you could have come to me to me everything rather then posting it and then splashing it on twitter.
I shouldn't have told rehab, but the thing is, they are ALWAYS there for me, when I haven't been around in a couple of months they welcome me back like nothing has happened or changed and I love every single member on that website, not only do they go out of their way to try and fix things but they stand by each member, buy flowers n gifts for us when we're ill or in hospital when something bad is happening.
We're a family and we take care of each other just like Heather, Gem you take care of each other and Tazz like a family should.
Let's just finish it as things were said that shouldn't have been, and thats it. Heather, thank you so much for doing the things on the blog that you did, you're amazing, and I'm sorry things have come to this.
Gem, I totally see your reasoning behind all of this, and I repect your decision to email me about it and the explanation on the twi muses.
Rehab girls, you're my family, I love you but I seriously asked you not to do something silly, and yet the blog post is a good idea, I seriously think it should have been left until all of this settled down.
That's it, I'm out, I'm dropping out of this whole argument, and when the person who the rant was made about drops out and you're still carrying on, it makes you guys look worse then the situation..
Beckie. Out... of this.. forever.
I read the original post. I commented on it. I stand by my comments there and here.
ReplyDeleteGenerally in my opinion, a bully is someone who can only feel good by making others feel small.
Swearing on a public blog does not make someone a bigger person.
Thank you Rags for a very insightful and exposing Blog.
Can't we all just hug and be friends?
ReplyDeleteClearly, nobody here wants drama. So...let's not have drama.
It's over yes? We can all get along, yes?
Good.
Now who wants brownies? They're special!!!!
;) haha.
I wish we could all get along like we used to in middle school... I wish I could bake a cake filled with rainbows and smiles and everyone would eat and be happy.
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